Saturday, September 6, 2008

The Water Planet - 9/6/08

What ways do place, human-environment interaction, and movement apply to irrigation?

45 comments:

Rachel Pd. 1 said...

Place, human-environment interaction, and movement apply to irrigation in many ways.
Depending on the place you will recieve certain amounts of water. If the place, like Arizona, does not have much water then you have to conserve and be careful with how much water you use.
Human- environment interaction includes actually building irrigation ditches and canals. Also people use irrigation to grow plants and farm in dry places. Places like Arizona, Texas, and California are very dry, but they are amongst the top agricultural producers each year. People also build dams to help with water conservation, irrigation, and the creation of electricity.
Places like Arizona, Texas, and California are very dry, but they are amongst the top agricultural producers each year. This is made possible by the movement of water. Millions of dollars are spent moving water to this dry farm regions.
This is how place, human- environment interaction, and movement apply to irrigation.

Anonymous said...

Irrigation is usually found in dry arid places that lack water supply to grow crops so they must irrigate the land. Thus that is what kind of place irrigation is found in. People must interact with the environment to dig canal and build pipes for irrigation. The tools and machines needed for building these irrigation projects need to move to get to the place where the irrigation project is being built. After the project is done water moves from far away sources into the irrigation canals and then into the places where you want water. These irrigation projects also provide water to cities that otherwise wouldn't be there if it had not been for the irrigation. This in turn causes movement because people from different places move to the cities because they now have a reliable water supply. To build to cities people must interact with the environment by pouring concrete, digging foundations...etc. So irrigation projects both affect the environment in terms of place, human-environment interaction, and movement, and also cause these things to happen in the place that is irrigated.

Tommy said...

Irrigation is a strong example of how people interact with their environment. They adapt to their environment and change it by bringing in water to dry regions. This is also an example of movement because the water is being moved to water the crops. Finally, place affects how people irrigate because if an area is a desert region, then farmers will need to irrigate their fields more. Also, if the place of an area is close to a water resource, then irrigation will be easier because the water will not have to be moved as far.

Anonymous said...

Responding to Rachel's comment. I agree with your statement that irrigation has made Arizona, California, and Texas major agricultural states. It has turned these states from dry places to veritable oasises. The dams created on the rivers create electricity which in turn make the dry climates more livabe. Thus it has affected both place and human environment interaction in one stroke. Not to mention the electricity powers computers that help transfer ideas from place to place.

Tommy said...

Irrigation usually refers to bringing water from an outside source to farms that do not receive enough water naturally. This is usually done by moving the water in large quantities, then splitting it up and dividing it among the crops. You said "irrigation projects also provide water to cities that otherwise wouldn't be there." While this is true, I do not believe that is technically irrigation. That is simply movement, or human-environment interaction. I am not saying that waht you said is not true, just that it is not technically irrigation.

Priya Vij, per 1 said...

For this question it is important to really understand the definition of irrigation. "Irrigation is the watering of land through pipes, ditches, or canals." That is the textbook definition. So therefore we can see that place, human environment interaction, and movement are all related to irrigation in the following ways. First, place is related to irrigation because if a place is located in a dry place or a place that doesn't have enough access to water then it becomes NECESSARY to get water there somehow and we use irrigation to get water there. Human-Environment interaction is related to irrigation because we created that, we interacted with the land and we dug the ditches and built the pipes and canals that are used for irrigation. Irrigation isn't a natural process...we are basically guiding the water and telling it where to go. Last but not lease movement. Movement is also related to irrigation because during irrigation what is the water doing? It is moving to dry places and places that are in need of water. Movement is the movement of people goods ideas...water is the good that is being moved in this case.

Priya Vij, per 1 said...

Responding to Rachel. I agree with you that in dry places you need to conserve water, but does that apple to irrigation or conservation? Irrigation is the process of moving water through pipes and ditches..how does conserving water move it? Nonetheless, all of your points are valid and I think we both just might have interpreted the blog question in different ways which is all good!

Brandon Pd 1 said...

To clarify what some previous comments stated; irrigation is to supply (dry land) with water by means of ditches, pipes, or streams; water artificially.

Irrigation can easily be applied to place, human-environment interaction, and movement.

When it comes to the theme of place the answer is quite clear. A place requires irrigation if it is dry, hot, or exhibits most of the qualities found in the desert or arid climates. The necessity of irrigation can also depend on the location of mountains, rivers, and vegetation; as these areas affect the amount of water in the soil. If an area is flat or has very little elevation change, run-off, or the flow of water, from rain or snow is very rare. Additionaly factors such as the soil, water avaliablity, and water quality apply to irrigation. Soil plays a large factor in the irrigation process. Sandy soil absorbs very little water which is very poor for the growing of crops and vegitation. They require frequent irrigation. In the other sense, clay soil is the best for retaining water. Clay soil requires very little irrigation as the clay composition holds most of the water. Water avaliablity is very important. A water source must be close by to be economical. Moving water from distances well over hundred miles becomes very expensive. When water is moved from such a far distance its quality greatly decreases. As water travels a human prescribed path it picks up many containaments, man made and natural. These threats include lead, mercury and arsenic. These toxins and posions must then be filtered out to clean the water for irrigation. As you can see a place’s characteristics greatly effect the method of irrigation, the price of irrigation, and the quality of the water for the irrigation.

The easiest of the three themes of geography to explain about irrigation is human-enviroment interaction. Since the 6th millennium BCE humans have had to modify the Earth and its natural features to accomidate their farms. From ancient irrigation methods to modern irrigation methods little has changed. Their method of vertical wells sloping tunnels are still used today. But humans have done more to improve the efficency of irrigation. Today humans modify Earth’s natural features by daming off rivers and lakes, building irrigation canals, and leveling off fields and farms. To move the water you must modify the enviroment. An excellent example an irrigation project is the Navajo Indian Irrigation Project. This projects main objective is to supply water to farms in an area which recieves on average eight inches of water annually. The construction consisted of building approximately 48 miles of concrete canals, 1.2 miles of open canals, 7 tunnels, 15 siphons, and an 15 siphons. When the project was completed the benefits became surprisingly clear. Land which was poor for growing crops soon became fertile farming land. Native residents gained jobs and 63,881 acres of land were irrigated. This is a true example of the power of irrigation.

Without movement there could be no irrigation. The entire process of irrigation relies on the movement of water from one place to another. The best example of large scale movement is the ancient Grand Canal. This man-made water way in China was built in 486 B.C. and stretches over 1,114 miles long! This was quite an engineering feat and shows the massive benefits of irrigation.

Brandon Pd 1 said...
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Brandon Pd 1 said...

In response to the comment posted by Frank, I would have to surely disagree. Irrigation has nothing to do with the generation of hydroelectric power. If no river were present energy would be generated from another form of electric power; nuclear, oil, natural gas, coal, solar. Even further off topic is that irrigation affects how we use computers! Irrigation is only the process of getting water to people and farms.

Rachel Pd. 1 said...

Responding to Priya: What you said about my coment. Dams are apart of irrigation and conservation. We use dams to regulate the amount of water that passes through an area. In this way we are conserving water, but also using irrigation. That was how I interpreted the blog question and the chapter.

Brandon Pd 1 said...

In response to Rachel's comment, Dams are not used to conserve water. Dams are mainly and only used to irrigate, and have flood control. Hoover Dam is an example. It was constructed for flood control.

Ajay said...

According to the climate of a specific place, an area may lack necessary amounts of water for crops. Because of this, it may be necessary to irrigate the land so it is fertile enough to grow crops.

When people irrigate land, they are changing the way water flows on the surface of the earth. They do this by creating dams to redirect water, and pipes, ditches, and canals to get it to the crops.

Irrigation exhibits movement in the way water is transferred from one place to another.

Ajay said...

@Brandon: I agree that irrigation itself is not directly related to hydroelectricity, and deals only with redirecting water to crops. However, what Frank was getting at is that parts of irrigation systems, like dams, can also be used to produce hydroelectricity.

Anonymous said...

Responding to what Brandon said. Irrigation does include the generation of hydroelectric power. Hoover Dam is a massive irrigation project that also supplies power to much of the southwest. Irrigation and hydroelectric power go hand in hand with each other. Almost every dam in the southwest also produces some kind of hydroelectric power. It would also be an example of human environment interaction, as humans are harnessing the power of the river to generate power for their use. So I ask you in what way is hydroelectric power not linked to irrigation?

Tommy said...

Responding to Frank's latest comment...
Dams main purpose is to produce hydroelectric power. Their main purpose is not to provide water to areas, although that can be one of their many uses. For instance, no one drinks out of Lake Mead, which was created by the Hoover Dam. So the Hoover Dam's main purpose is not to provide water, or else the majority of the water behind it would be distributed to local farmers, not contained in a large lake. While dams are still an example of human-environment interaction because we are harnessing our environment to create electricty, it is not technically irrigation. Irrigation is transporting, or moving, water through pipes, ditches, or canals to hydrate plants in an otherwise dry area. This is mainly used in deserts or in areas with little rainfall. Often, one will see straight lines of crops with rows of water between them. This is human-environment interaction because humans are harnessing the water. However, unlike dams, the are using the water to grow plants, not produce electricity.

Priya Vij, per 1 said...

Reponding to Frank's original response. I agree with your opinion about how human environment interaction and even place affect irrigation. However, your example of movement is quite different for what I believe. I agree when you say that the water is moving from far away sources to places where you want water, but when you say that it makes cities exist that wouldn't be there is it weren't for irrigation is where I disagree. Also if I was going to move I wouldn't move to a place that gets it water supple through irrigation because I don't believe that is a TOTALLY reliable source because the place where the water is coming from could lose its water anytime-especially with how the drought season is now.

Ajay said...

@Priya: I agree with your point that a city that gets its water from somewhere else would discourage people from living there. However, I have to agree with Frank that irrigation can allow some cities to come into existence. For example - if there was an area that would be ideal to have a city for trade, but the area lacked sufficient water, irrigation would allow that city to be established and grow there.

Brandon Pd 1 said...

Frank, irrigation and the generation of hydroelectric power do not go hand in hand. Irrigation is simply the movement of water to another location. Generating hydroelectricity is just another benefit.

Tommy, you are grossly inaccurate. Hoover Dam was constructed for flood control and to maintain a controlled and reliable source of water, according to the United States Department of the Interior. And your statement that “Dams main purpose is to produce hydroelectric power.” is very wrong. Also referring to the Department of the Interior, there are 8,100 major dams in the United States. A “major dam” refers to a dam close to the size as Hoover Dam. Of these 8,100 dams only 2,000 produce hydroelectric power. That is only 24%, so as you can see the generation of hydroelectric power is only a mere benefit.

Lauren Bacon- period 1 said...

It is evident that place, human-environment interaction, and movement all relate to irrigation. The amount of water needed to support crops in an area depends on the climate of the place. For instance, if the place includes a desert climate, then it will definitely be in need of more water due to the fact that it needs to be irrigated more than a humid tropical climate, which receives up to 450 inches of precipitation annually. Human-environment interaction is certainly applied to irrigation. When we create ditches and canals to water crops, we are modifying our environment. Lastly, movement is related because the water is transported to the area that uses irrigation to keep crops alive. As you can clearly see, these three themes of geography certainly can be applied to irrigation.

Lauren Bacon- period 1 said...

Responding to Priya’s last comment. I definitely agree with your reasoning behind why you should not move to a city due to the use of irrigation. Yes, relying on a water supply that comes from irrigation is not very reassuring. As Mrs. Kiser mentioned during our last lesson on chapter 4, Anthem receives its water supply from the Indian Reservation, who could immediately stop this trade if a drought was to occur. As a result, Anthem’s plants would die due to the fact that the irrigation ditches and canals would not be receiving water (as well as the residents’ other needs for water). Consequently, I would not move to a town because it is using irrigation. In my opinion, you have it absolutely correct.

bailee period 1 said...

Place human-environment interaction and movement apply to irrigation because place is like a dry place where we need lots of irrigation or a wet place where irrigation is easy. movement is some times in hot dry places water needs to be moved there so their crops can succeed. Human environment intercation is the way we make the irrigation such as canals ditches, by making these the humans are changing the land

Priya Vij, per 1 said...

Responding to Ajay. Your point is indeed quite valid and I must have overlooked it. If a cities location is awesome for trade and if the benefit of irrigation in that area would be greater to the economy than the cost of the irrigation then you would be correct that some cities are created by irrigation. I mean it would almost be ignorant not to create a city that would be so beneficial because then our economy would be losing business from the trade that this city could bring. Wow, ok that was just one long way of saying that your point it valid!

Ross period.1 said...

Place, human-environment interaction and movement are ver bi when it comes to irrigation. First of all place is an important factor when it comes to irrigation. If your is a hot place; for example Arizona then irrigation is very important. Irrigation helps to feed the crops with water. Since we are in a hot state this is important as we do not get much rain. Human-environment interaction is when modify the land for our own benifits. Humans build the canals, pipes or ditches for irrigation to procede. Then we feed water through the canal, pipes or ditch to feed the crops. Movement also comes into play because when crops do not get feed with water no crops will grow. So if the crops do not get feed the farmer will not get a profit. So the farmer will move. We are also moving large quantities in to the area so movement is also a factor there.

Ross period.1 said...

In response to Tommy's first response. I agree that water is part of movement because of how it travels. I also agree with you that place has a lot to do with irrigation.

Rachel Pd. 1 said...

Ross: In response to your first comment. I agree with you. Human- environment interaction is a big part of irrigation. We build canals to move water to places with little rain. They are all interconnected.

Eric O. Per. 1 said...

There are many ways that place, human-enviorment interaction and movent apply to irrigation in many ways. Humans are always using water sources for many reasons they are also creating dams and places to collect water too. Water is also effecting people too. Before running water water was created, water used to be an important factor when deciding on where to build and live. In modern day it is practical so say where water is needed there is a way to get it there.

Lauren Bacon- period 1 said...

Responding to Ross’ first comment. Although I interpreted the relation of movement and irrigation differently, your connection is interesting and I do agree with you. You stated that movement is applied to irrigation due to the fact that if crops do not receive a sufficient amount of water, then they will not survive. As a result, the famer will lose money and move to a different area to make a living. Though I thought that the connection was the movement of water to the ditches and canals, your idea makes perfect sense.

aaryn p1 said...

Some ways place, human-environment interaction, and movenent appy to irrigation are that either they make irrigation possible, or irrigation makes them possible. Like with place, if the plants were not in a dry climate then there would prob. be no need for irrigation. Human-Environment interaction relates because it is humans changing the environment by watering their plants. And lastly movenent applys because with out irrigation in dry climates there would not be products to be moved, and sold.

aaryn p1 said...

Bailee-
I agree with you about how human-environment interaction is how we make canals. Because with out people to make canals there would be none. Also it is true that if we are going to live in hot fry places then we must have some way to support or life style. And our lifestyle requires water in every possible way.

Andy Waldo, p.1 said...

Place, human-enviroment interaction, and movement all apply to irrigation. Irrigation usually is put in a place that is drier and doesn't get much water, like Arizona or California. Humans must move the water to the irrigation pipes, ditches, or canals. The idea of irragation has been moved all around the earth.

Andy Waldo, p.1 said...

Frank: irrigation and hydroelcric power don't go hand in hand. Hydroelectric power comes froma dam storing water. Irrigation is when you water crop using water and either pipes, ditches, or canals. The simularity is that both use water.

aaryn p1 said...

Tommy-
I agree with you that irrigation is a very good example of how humans interact with our environment. In order to make a dry place livable there must be water, we must bring water our selves- irrigation. The way you related place was something that I hadn’t thought of before, but now that I think about it, it is totally true. Depending on where farmers move, the amount of irrigation needs will change.

Andy Waldo, p.1 said...

In response to bailee, irrigation in a wet enviroment isn't nesisarily easier than a hotter enviroment. It takes less water to irrigate in a wetter enviroment. The hotter enviroment will take more water because a lot of the water gets evaporated. The soil will absorbe a lot of water as well.

Ross period.1 said...

In response to Andy: Irrigation has moved all around the world, it also is especially important in rural areas and in third world countries. Irrigation is a world wide thing nd not one person uses it.

Eric O. per. 1 said...

In response to andy's original comment: I agree with everything you said and you also basicly stated my thought on how water can really get to aywhere when its necessary.

Elisa said...

Place, human-environment interaction and movement all play a certain role with irrigation. Place applies to it because irrigation is usually only used in dry places. Therefore, the place is clearly an attribute of irrigation. In order to have irrigation you must build canals/ditches/pipes. Meaning that humans have to work with their environment in order to dig through the ground to built these sorts of things. That is how human-environment interaction applies to irrigation. And then you have movement which plays a huge part because without the movement of the water from one place to another we wouldn't be able to get irrigation in these dry areas. It is taken from far away places and then moves trough canals and such in order to get to the place it needs to be. And that is how movement applies to irrigation.

Elisa said...

In response to Brandon's comment earlier to Frank:

I agree, irrigation hydroelectricity to not work hand in hand. One can be without the other and like Brandon mentioned before we can produce electricity by other means other than water. Irrigation is simply to get water from one place to another that needs it to survive pretty much(dry areas). Therefore, dragging hydroelectricity into this doesn't make sense at all. There separate things that weren't made to benefit one another.

bailee period 1 said...

Frank:
I agree with some of the others in saying hydroelectric power does not have to do with irrigation

bailee period 1 said...

in priya's response to rachel i also agree with priya that the conserving water doesnt have to do with irrigation. yes we do need to conserve water but how does that have to do with irrigation?

Elisa said...

Responding to Bailee's comment:

I agree with you for now. But if we don't conserve or at least take of it then it will become polluted and the water running through canals will be disgusting. We use irrigation mostly for agriculture. We want it to be the cleanest it can be. Conserving water is a way to do that.

Anonymous said...

Irrigation has to deal with all of these topics. Including place, human-environment interaction, and movement. Place because depending on where you are located in the world depends on if you need to irrigate as much. Your place in the World also depends on the amount of water needed to use irrigation. Human-enviormet interaction because if it weren't for humans then there would be no irrigation. Movement because the movement of water occurs when irrigation is being used. Water is being moved from one place to another in order to allow irrigation to work. That is how place, human-environment interaction, and movement deal with irrigation.

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Anonymous said...

In responce to Aaryn's comment, I agree with you with your views on how place, human-environment interaction, and movement apply to irrigation. Both you and I have the same type of ideas and content for our reasoning to why they do apply to iriigation in our world.

Anonymous said...

Aaryn-
I believe that me and you both have the same type of ideas on how place, human-environment interaction, and movement apply to irrigation. You are right when you say that in wetter places irrigation is not needed. You were also right when you said that irrigation is only needed in dryer places such as here. I agree with you completly.